HLE 18 & 19: eerste spots

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Iain Dobson
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HLE 18 & 19: eerste spots

Bericht door Iain Dobson » 19 nov 2011, 15:28

Ik stel voor een Brits-Belgische Spoorweg Nieuwsgroep een lijst samen van de HLE 18 & 19 gebaseerd op onze eigen spots, informatie op HGBTF, Wallorail, Railcolor en elders.

Voel je vrij hier te schrijven, het maakt niet uit of dit in het Nederlands, Engels, Frans, Esperato :shock:, is. Ik kan je bericht vertalen, maar ik moet aan iemand vragen om dit eerste bericht te vertalen. De tekst in is het Engels en ik verontschuldig mij om in het Engels te schrijven op een Belgisch forum.

The first locomotives to be accepted were all on 16th August 2011, after they had started to work in passenger service.

96 Type 18s Have Been Allocated [toegewezen]

1801 - Accepted on 16/08/11 [first recorded passenger working 11/07/11]
1802 - Accepted on 16/08/11 [first recorded passenger working 10/08/11]
1803 - Accepted on 16/08/11 [first recorded passenger working 06/07/11]
1804 - Accepted on 30/09/11 [first recorded passenger working 11/10/11]
1805 - Accepted on 23/01/12 [first recorded passenger working 24/01/12]
1806 - Accepted on 16/12/11 [first recorded passenger working 03/01/12]
1807 - Accepted on 16/08/11 [first recorded passenger working 29/08/11]
1808 - Accepted on 16/08/11 [first recorded passenger working 29/07/11]
1809 - Accepted on 16/08/11 [first recorded passenger working 09/10/11]
1810 - Accepted on 16/08/11 [first recorded passenger working 29/08/11]
1811 - Accepted on 16/08/11 [first recorded passenger working 20/09/11]
1812 - Accepted on 16/08/11 [first recorded passenger working 12/09/11]
1813 - Accepted on 30/11/11 [first recorded passenger working 16/12/11]
1814 - Accepted on 09/09/11 [first recorded passenger working 14/09/11]
1815 - Accepted on 09/09/11 [first recorded passenger working 21/10/11]
1816 - Accepted on 16/09/11 [first recorded passenger working 20/09/11]
1817 - Accepted on 23/09/11 [first recorded passenger working 29/09/11]
1818 - Accepted on 06/02/11 [first recorded passenger working 07/02/12]
1819 - Accepted on 23/09/11 [first recorded passenger working 10/10/11]
1820 - Accepted on 30/09/11 [first recorded passenger working 10/10/11]
1821 - Accepted on 30/09/11 [first recorded passenger working 03/10/11]
1822 - Accepted on 09/02/12 [first recorded passenger working 10/02/12]
1823 - Accepted on 07/10/11 [first recorded passenger working 19/10/11]
1824 - Accepted on 07/10/11 [first recorded passenger working 13/10/11]
1825 - Accepted on 14/10/11 [first recorded passenger working 17/10/11]
1826 - Accepted on 16/12/11 [first recorded passenger working 28/12/11]
1827 - Accepted on 31/10/11 [first recorded passenger working 14/11/11]
1828 - Accepted on 21/10/11 [first recorded passenger working 25/10/11]
1829 - Accepted on 06/02/11 [first recorded passenger working 16/02/12]
1830 - Accepted on 21/10/11 [first recorded passenger working 25/10/11]
1831 - Accepted on 13/02/12 [first recorded passenger working 15/02/12]
1832 - Accepted on 31/10/11 [first recorded passenger working 08/11/11]
1833 - Accepted on 31/10/11 [first recorded passenger working 17/11/11]
1834 - Accepted on 17/11/11 [first recorded passenger working 25/11/11]
1835 - Accepted on 31/10/11 [first recorded passenger working 08/11/11]
1836 - Accepted on 21/11/11 [first recorded passenger working 21/11/11]
1837 - Accepted on 31/01/12 [first recorded passenger working 03/02/12]
1838 - Accepted on 31/01/12 [first recorded passenger working 05/02/12]
1839 - Accepted on 23/11/11 [first recorded passenger working 30/11/11]
1840 - Accepted on 24/05/12 [first recorded passenger working 25/05/12]
1841 - Accepted on 13/07/12 [first recorded passenger working 17/07/12]
1842 - Accepted on 31/12/11 [first recorded passenger working 15/01/12]
1843 - Accepted on 24/10/11 [first recorded passenger working 28/10/11]
1844 - Accepted on 04/11/11 [first recorded passenger working 10/11/11]
1845 - Accepted on 17/11/11 [first recorded passenger working 18/11/11]
1846 - Accepted on 31/12/11 [first recorded passenger working 10/01/12]
1847 - Accepted on 28/11/11 [first recorded passenger working 30/11/11]
1848 - Accepted on 25/11/11 [first recorded passenger working 01/12/11]
1849 - Accepted on 25/11/11 [first recorded passenger working 01/12/11]
1850 - Accepted on 12/12/11 [first recorded passenger working 13/12/11]
1851 - Accepted on 23/01/12 [first recorded passenger working 26/01/12]
1852 - Accepted on 16/12/11 [first recorded passenger working 28/12/11]
1853 - Accepted on 28/11/11 [first recorded passenger working 02/12/11]
1854 - Accepted on 09/12/11 [first recorded passenger working 13/12/11]
1855 - Accepted on 16/01/12 [first recorded passenger working 18/01/12]
1856 - Accepted on 06/01/12 [first recorded passenger working 09/01/12]
1857 - Accepted on 31/01/12 [first recorded passenger working 06/02/12]
1858 - Accepted on 13/01/12 [first recorded passenger working 16/01/12]
1859 - Accepted on 16/01/12 [first recorded passenger working 18/01/12]
1860 - Accepted on 09/12/11 [first recorded passenger working 21/12/11]
1861 - Accepted on **/08/16 [first recorded passenger working 19/08/16]
1862 - Accepted on 14/02/12 [first recorded passenger working 15/02/12]
1863 - Accepted on 16/04/12 [first recorded passenger working 30/04/12]
1864 - Accepted on 13/02/12 [first recorded passenger working 16/02/12]
1865 - Accepted on 10/08/12 [first recorded passenger working 17/08/12]
1866 - Accepted on 24/02/12 [first recorded passenger working 28/03/12]
1867 - Accepted on 02/03/12 [first recorded passenger working 06/03/12]
1868 - Accepted on 24/02/12 [first recorded passenger working 03/03/12]
1869 - Accepted on 26/03/12 [first recorded passenger working 28/03/12]
1870 - Accepted on 27/04/12 [first recorded passenger working 02/05/12]
1871 - Accepted on 16/03/12 [first recorded passenger working 21/03/12]
1872 - Accepted on 29/03/12 [first recorded passenger working 30/03/12]
1873 - Accepted on 27/04/12 [first recorded passenger working 30/04/12]
1874 - Accepted on 06/04/12 [first recorded passenger working 13/04/12]
1875 - Accepted on 22/05/12 [first recorded passenger working 25/05/12]
1876 - Accepted on 30/03/12 [first recorded passenger working 06/04/12]
1877 - Accepted on **/08/16 [first recorded passenger working 05/09/16]
1878 - Accepted on 21/05/12 [first recorded passenger working 03/06/12]
1879 - Accepted on 08/05/12 [first recorded passenger working 18/05/12]
1880 - Accepted on 27/04/12 [first recorded passenger working 03/05/12]
1881 - Accepted on 27/04/12 [first recorded passenger working 06/05/12]
1882 - Accepted on 27/04/12 [first recorded passenger working 03/05/12]
1883 - Accepted on 08/05/12 [first recorded passenger working 22/05/12]
1884 - Accepted on 22/05/12 [first recorded passenger working 24/05/12]
1885 - Accepted on 25/05/12 [first recorded passenger working 01/06/12]
1886 - Accepted on 24/05/12 [first recorded passenger working 08/06/12]
1887 - Accepted on 25/05/12 [first recorded passenger working 31/05/12]
1888 - Accepted on 06/04/12 [first recorded passenger working 11/07/12]
1889 - Accepted on 06/07/12 [first recorded passenger working 18/07/12]
1890 - Accepted on 22/06/12 [first recorded passenger working 27/06/12]
1891 - Accepted on 08/06/14 [first recorded passenger working 11/06/12]
1892 - Accepted on 19/10/12 [first recorded passenger working 23/10/12]
1893 - Accepted on 06/07/12 [first recorded passenger working 11/07/12]
1894 - Accepted on 15/10/12 [first recorded passenger working 17/10/12]
1895 - Accepted on 15/06/12 [first recorded passenger working 19/06/12]
1896 - Accepted on 31/08/12 [first recorded passenger working 05/09/12]


24 Type 19s Have Been Allocated [toegewezen]

1901 - Accepted on **/01/17 [first recorded passenger working 20/01/17]
1902 - Accepted on **/01/17 [first recorded passenger working 20/01/17]
1903 - Accepted on 17/08/12 [first recorded passenger working 24/08/12]
1904 - Accepted on 09/08/12 [first recorded passenger working 11/08/12]
1905 - Accepted on 24/08/12 [first recorded passenger working 09/09/12]
1906 - Accepted on 31/05/13 [first recorded passenger working 05/06/13]
1907 - Accepted on 23/07/12 [first recorded passenger working 04/08/12]
1908 - Accepted on 19/07/12 [first recorded passenger working 03/08/12]
1909 - Accepted on 10/08/12 [first recorded passenger working 14/09/12]
1910 - Accepted on 21/09/12 [first recorded passenger working 27/09/12]
1911 - Accepted on 02/07/13 [first recorded passenger working 06/07/13]
1912 - Accepted on 14/09/12 [first recorded passenger working 14/09/12]
1913 - Accepted on 24/05/13 [first recorded passenger working 25/05/13]
1914 - Accepted on 15/05/13 [first recorded passenger working 21/05/13]
1915 - Accepted on 21/08/12 [first recorded passenger working 27/08/12]
1916 - Accepted on 23/05/13 [first recorded passenger working 27/05/13]
1917 - Accepted on 21/09/12 [first recorded passenger working 25/09/12]
1918 - Accepted on 04/10/12 [first recorded passenger working 26/10/12]
1919 - Accepted on 30/08/12 [first recorded passenger working 06/09/12]
1920 - Accepted on 21/06/13 [first recorded passenger working 25/06/13]
1921 - Accepted on 21/09/12 [first recorded passenger working 27/09/12]
1922 - Accepted on 04/10/12 [first recorded passenger working 16/10/12]
1923 - Accepted on 24/05/13 [first recorded passenger working 27/05/13]
1924 - Accepted on 31/05/13 [first recorded passenger working 05/06/13]



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Re: HLE 18 & 19 Lijst

Bericht door Treinen9880 » 19 nov 2011, 15:40

thanks Iain
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Re: HLE 18 & 19 Lijst

Bericht door Iain Dobson » 19 nov 2011, 15:51

I asked a couple of people on HGBTF, who do the lists, if I should start a new topic or do the list as part of the 18 topic. They both said start a new topic.

I am interested in any spots which add to the list. New locomotives pulling passenger trains and new locomotives arriving from Germany.

I am very interested if anyone has the official dates of entry into service, which I would like to include on this list.

I do apologise for doing the list in English, but my Nederlands is not that good and the Google Translate makes the language funny to read!

Cheers

Iain

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Re: HLE 18 & 19 Lijst

Bericht door Stijn91 » 19 nov 2011, 16:50

I saw the 1833 on the 17th of November.


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Re: HLE 18 & 19 Lijst

Bericht door Iain Dobson » 19 nov 2011, 22:49

This is just what I am after, things that change entries to the list.

This confirms, all 96 Type 18s have been built. I think the entry into service is more governed [gouverneur] by NMBS/SNCB ability to accept new locomotives rather that Siemens ability to deliver. Siemens can put 85+ Type 18s in Belgium tomorrow, but NMBS cannot accept that many new locomotives at the same time. NMBS does not want 96 locomotives that all need overhaul at the same time, so the entry is staged.

If anyone wants a technical word explaining, please PB me.

Off to the pub now :D

Iain

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Re: HLE 18 & 19 Lijst

Bericht door Dorfmeister » 20 nov 2011, 02:03

1845 was on duty between Antwerp and Charleroi last friday... Sadly, it broke down in Eppegem.

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Re: HLE 18 & 19 Lijst

Bericht door Steve » 20 nov 2011, 09:40

Dorfmeister schreef:1845 was on duty between Antwerp and Charleroi last friday... Sadly, it broke down in Eppegem.
Toch niet met jou aan het "stuur"? :P

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Re: HLE 18 & 19 Lijst

Bericht door Robin » 20 nov 2011, 11:00

1801 - 23/10/2011 te AC Salzinnes
1802 - 02/10/2011 te TW Merelbeke
1803 - 17/08/2011 te Welkenreadt
1804 - 09/10/2011 te TW Charleroi
1807 - 07/05/2011 te TW Kinkempois
1808 - 08/10/2011 te Oostende
1809 - 15/10/2011 te TW Kinkempois
1810 - 15/10/2011 te TW Kinkempois
1811 - 08/10/2011 te TW Oostende
1812 - 15/10/2011 te TW Kinkempois
1814 - 20/07/2009 te CW Mechelen
1816 - 23/09/2011 te TW Antwerpen
1820 - 15/10/2011 te TW Kinkempois
1825 - 15/10/2011 te TW Kinkempois
1827 - 15/10/2011 te TW Kinkempois
1830 - 15/10/2011 te TW Kinkempois
1831 - 15/10/2011 te TW Kinkempois
1843 - 16/11/2011 te Ekeren
1860 - 07/05/2011 te TW Kinkempois
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Re: HLE 18 & 19 Lijst

Bericht door Molenbruch Y. » 20 nov 2011, 11:25

1814 - In Service [first passenger working 16/09/11]
HLE 1814 was photographed on September 14, while working IC K 2214. You can take a look at the first page of this topic (13th message): http://www.hgbtf.net/viewtopic.php?f=37 ... 14#p155754

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Re: HLE 18 & 19 Lijst

Bericht door Treinen9880 » 20 nov 2011, 15:03

Ik heb een ideetje. Als we nu ook eens bijhouden op welke ritten elke loc rijd. Bv. Ik heb de 1844 gespot in Brugge met de IC-A (een beetje gebaseerd op spot de HLE20,23,26)
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Re: HLE 18 & 19 Lijst

Bericht door Iain Dobson » 20 nov 2011, 15:52

Treinen9880 schreef:Ik heb een ideetje. Als we nu ook eens bijhouden op welke ritten elke loc rijd. Bv. Ik heb de 1844 gespot in Brugge met de IC-A (een beetje gebaseerd op spot de HLE20,23,26)
The idea of this list is to show:-

When new locomotives arrive in Belgium

When the new locomotives work their first passenger train

I will update the list until all 120 locomotives are in service and then I will stop. The HLE 20, 23 and 26 lists are only for a little while as the locomotives are to stop next year and the idea is to show the end of these locomotives. The 26s may go next month, the 23s will all go by December 2012 and the 20s will all go by the end of 2013. To keep a list of 120 HLE 18 & 19 locomotives is a lot of hard work and would serve no purpose.

I have translated this using Google

Het idee van deze lijst is te tonen aan: -

Wanneer er nieuwe locomotieven in België aankomen

Wanneer de nieuwe locomotieven werk van hun eerste passagierstrein

Ik zal de lijst bijwerken totdat alle 120 locomotieven in dienst en dan zal ik stoppen. De HLE 20, 23 en 26 lijsten zijn slechts voor een korte tijd als de locomotieven zijn volgend jaar te stoppen en het idee is om te laten zien aan het einde van deze locomotieven. De 26s kan volgende maand te gaan, zal de 23S allemaal naar in december 2012 en de jaren 20 zullen alle gaan vóór het einde van 2013. Houden om een ​​lijst van 120 HLE 18 & 19 locomotieven is veel hard werk en zou dienen geen enkel doel.

Iain

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Re: HLE 18 & 19 Lijst

Bericht door Steve » 20 nov 2011, 15:55

Treinen9880 schreef:Ik heb een ideetje. Als we nu ook eens bijhouden op welke ritten elke loc rijd. Bv. Ik heb de 1844 gespot in Brugge met de IC-A (een beetje gebaseerd op spot de HLE20,23,26)
Dat zal erg moeilijk bij te houden zijn, temeer daar de inzet van de 18'en meer en meer toeneemt. De topics voor de 20, 23 en 26 zijn er omdat die locs in mindere of meerdere mate het einde van hun carrière naderen, en het dus interessant is om te zien wat de evolutie precies is.

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Re: HLE 18 & 19 Lijst

Bericht door Treinen9880 » 20 nov 2011, 15:59

MIVB-reiziger schreef:
Treinen9880 schreef:Ik heb een ideetje. Als we nu ook eens bijhouden op welke ritten elke loc rijd. Bv. Ik heb de 1844 gespot in Brugge met de IC-A (een beetje gebaseerd op spot de HLE20,23,26)
Dat zal erg moeilijk bij te houden zijn, temeer daar de inzet van de 18'en meer en meer toeneemt. De topics voor de 20, 23 en 26 zijn er omdat die locs in mindere of meerdere mate het einde van hun carrière naderen, en het dus interessant is om te zien wat de evolutie precies is.
Jullie hebben wel gelijk. Het zal inderdaad te moeilijk zijn om alles bij te houden.
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Re: HLE 18 & 19 Lijst

Bericht door Stef » 20 nov 2011, 18:41

Ik heb ook een vraag gekregen in de spottopics die ik beheer of het niet mogelijk is om de laatste 10 spots bij te houden. Uiteraard maakt dat het forum niet overzichtelijk. Als er mensen zijn die zich hiermee willen bezig houden en willen delen, dan stel ik voor dat ze dit in Excel doen.
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